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Active Mawilite Suspect Test: Qualification Thread (Updated with new requirements) READ OP THOROUGHLY!!!

Preliminary Poll - Do you think Mawilite will get banned?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • No

    Votes: 10 76.9%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .

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Due to the lack of votes in the last period of qualification (possibly due to confusion cause of the poll), the qualification period will be extended and the requirements for qualification have been changed. Read this post for details.

Mawilite Suspect Test
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HP / Attack / Defense / Special Attack / Special Defense / Speed / Base Stat Total
Mawile stat spread: 50 / 85 / 85 / 55 / 55 / 50 / 380
Mega Mawile stat spread: 50 / 105 / 125 / 55 / 95 / 50 / 480​

The tiering council has decided to do our first suspect test on Mawilite, and we have decided to do it before we release the official PerfectPokemon.com tier lists. We have numerous reasons for suspect testing it, which I have listed below:
  • The tiering council was split on whether it deserved to be banned or not.
  • It is capable of sweeping through teams with ease, as well as being a potent wallbreaker.
  • It has a variety of viable sets which, when all factors considered, gives it zero counters.
  • It has two great abilities before mega evolution, as well as the highest attack stat in the game courtesy of Huge Power, giving it an effective base 259 attack stat.

Suspect Test Rules
  • All players must play at least 5 matches with a 70%+ win/loss rate (4/5 games gives you 80%). If this is not achieved by the end of these 5 matches, you must continue to play until you achieve the required rate if you are to qualify for voting.
  • Battle videos for participating matches MUST be provided. Any without a video included alongside the result will be ignored.
  • Opponents must confirm that they are the actual opponent by liking the qualification post. Otherwise the match will not be counted. Furthermore, you may not play the same player multiple times for qualified matches.
  • For qualification, you have one post which you edit with all your battle codes for the matches. This must be in the following format:
Code:
#MawiliteSuspect
[IGN used] - [PS alt used]
[spoiler=Matches]
[match result (win/loss)] vs @[opponent's username]: [battle video code/PS replay link]
[match result (win/loss)] vs @[opponent's username]: [battle video code/PS replay link]
[match result (win/loss)] vs @[opponent's username]: [battle video code/PS replay link]
...
[/spoiler]
  • All qualifying matches must be on the same PS alt and use the same IGN as the one listed. Any that do not share the information on your post will not be counted.
  • You will have two weeks to play all 5 matches. All matches must be played within that time-frame and be confirmed by the opponent that the match was played during the suspect period through (once again by liking the post).
  • Edit 10/21/14: you can now qualify for a bye if you state your qualifications. This means things like showdown ladder peaks, your gym win/loss ratio and any other qualifications you may have that show you are good at strategising (e.g. you have won a chess tournament in the last 2 years) and, most importantly, how much experience you have in matches where Mawilite is legal AND matches where it is illegal, so that we know you have a good perspective on its ban-worthyness. These will be moderated by the tiering council to see whether you are worthy of a bye. If you want to know the best way to sign up for the chance to get a bye, this post is a good example of a qualification post.

The Suspect test will start tonight, 00:00 GMT+1, 21st October 2014, and will run until 23:59 GMT, 3rd November 2014 (timezone change due to daylight savings time). If you obtain the requirements to vote in that time, you will be legible to vote. Anyone on the Suspect Test Council is currently liable to a free vote. The tiering council is made up of the following members:
What is a suspect test?
We have suspect tests to determine whether something that was not banned as part of the original banlist is ban-worthy. This is done externally from the tiering council to get a wider range of opinions on whether the Pokémon is ban-worthy or not.

Why are you thinking of banning this Pokémon if it isn't a legendary?
You may think that anything that isn't legendary isn't broken, but the fact is that some non-legendaries are "broken" or uncompetitive. The not all Pokémon in the game game are balanced, and, as such, bans need to be made. Similarly, not all legendary Pokémon are broken for a variety of reasons, such as being outclassed by other Pokémon (e.g. Shaymin), suffer crippling flaws or weaknesses (e.g. Moltres/Articuno (4x Stealth Rock weakness), Regigigas (Slow Start) and Diancie (Poor defensive typing and subpar HP and Speed stats)), are competitively balanced (e.g. Latios/Latias and Landorus-T) or are just flat out mediocre (e.g. Regirock and Regice).

I want to get involved! How do I?
Its great that you want to get involved! Read through this post to see how you can participate in the suspect test.

I have a question that is not in this FAQ. How do I get it answered?
Feel free to contact me if you have any further queries you may have about the suspect test.

Good luck!
 
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Good post, My advice however would be to change the poll from asking if you think it will be banned to if they think it should be banned

The first is a prediction, the second is an opinion

Just my two cents
 

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Could you post a link to the tiering council thread? <3
 

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Could you post a link to the tiering council thread? <3

The council was made official on the 7th of September so almost everything for the most part was discussed, It was open to join but now we're just waiting on a final product for all members to voice their opinions on after we propose it to doulie and he tells us what he thinks
 

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The council was made official on the 7th of September so almost everything for the most part was discussed, It was open to join but now we're just waiting on a final product for all members to voice their opinions on after we propose it to doulie and he tells us what he thinks
Yeah, but will it open back up ever? I'd like to apply for the next suspect that goes through
 

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Yeah, but will it open back up ever? I'd like to apply for the next suspect that goes through

The council was for the whole tiering system to be redone, not just for this suspect specifically

Any future changes would be minor enough to not need a council i would imagine but i'll look into opening sign ups back up, any more questions feel free to PM me about so we don't clutter this thread
 

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So that we know which posts are qualification posts, I am going to ask you to put #MawiliteSuspect at the top of the post. That way we can differentiate between qualification posts and anything else at a glance. Thank you.
 

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Sorry to double-post, but I forgot to do this earlier and @phenix won't be alerted if I edit my previous post.
Yeah, but will it open back up ever? I'd like to apply for the next suspect that goes through
The tiering council will be re-formed when ORAS comes out to discuss the new tiers. This process will likely take multiple months while the ORAS metagame forms.
 

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Sorry to double-post, but I forgot to do this earlier and @phenix won't be alerted if I edit my previous post.

The tiering council will be re-formed when ORAS comes out to discuss the new tiers. This process will likely take multiple months while the ORAS metagame forms.

She would be alerted if you tagged her -_-
 

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She would be alerted if you tagged her -_-
if u edit a post with a tag, the user doesn't get alerted. Its dumb, I know, but its just Xenforo/whatever forum hoster/template/thing this is being dumb.
 

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I'll take part I suppose
Make a post like this:
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#MawiliteSuspect
[IGN used] - [PS alt used]
[spoiler=Matches]
[match result (win/loss)]: [battle video code/PS replay link]
[match result (win/loss)]: [battle video code/PS replay link]
[match result (win/loss)]: [battle video code/PS replay link]
...
[/spoiler]
 

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Ok, I'm a Nova warrior with a 1-0 record as well as one of the mentors for Nova. My peak on Shodown is 1890 ELO I believe and 1820 after the most recent ladder reset. I'm also one of the elite 4 members on IGN's vestibule Elite 4 challenge (the top guy other than the champ). I'm also a normal gym leader with a 20-7 record.

I have faced and used Mawile numerous times and have had plenty of teams that fall victim to it's insane power coupled with priority and its tricky manipulation of its movepool to get past almost all of its checks. I'd like to take part in this suspect. #MawiliteSuspect
 

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@Marigi174 The suspect is hardly getting anywhere - I feel we should just make a quick decision and have done with it.
 

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@Marigi174 The suspect is hardly getting anywhere - I feel we should just make a quick decision and have done with it.
If there aren't many qualified players by november 3rd we will just do the vote anyway. i wasn't going to run it a 3rd time, and at least someone's applied.
 

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If there aren't many qualified players by november 3rd we will just do the vote anyway. i wasn't going to run it a 3rd time, and at least someone's applied.
Lol. I guess I'll just be the one and only vote. What to choose what to choose. :p I'll try and get some legit suspect battles if I can too. Do they have to be on PP or can they be anywhere?
 

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Lol. I guess I'll just be the one and only vote. What to choose what to choose. :p I'll try and get some legit suspect battles if I can too. Do they have to be on PP or can they be anywhere?
You are going to qualify for the suspect test based on your post for a bye, so just so long as you have a way of knowing about Mawilite in OU that will give you an informed justification it shouldn't matter. However, you are going to need to do this by challenge as Mawilite is banned in OU on PS, making it untestable on the general ladder. If you could post a few replays to prove that you have tested it a bit (make sure to build teams to test all 3 of its standard sets so that you can get an informed opinion on its overall effect in OU) it will probably aid your argument in the suspect test. Just edit them into your current post if you do decide to.
 

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As the tiering council wants to get the test finished ASAP, I am changing the end date of the suspect test to November 28th. ATM it will be just clutch voting alongside the tiering council, so we are just going to get byes to save time. Feel free to post with your reasoning for why you think you should be allowed to vote.
 
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