HELP A NOOB - These are my Pokes - what do I need?

Saucman

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Tyranitar (Earth Plate)
252ATK/252SPD
Jolly - Sand Stream
-Stealth Rock
-Crunch
-Dragon Dance
-EQ

Greninja (Life Orb)
252Sp.ATK/252SPD
Timid - Torrent
-Grass Knot
-Dark Pulse
-Surf
-U-Turn

Charizard (Charizardite X)
252ATK/252SPD
Jolly - Blaze
-Flare Blitz
-Dragon Claw
-EQ
-Dragon Dance

Klefki (?)
252HP/252DEF
Impish - Prankster
-Metal Sound
-Toxic
-Spikes
-Foul Play

Aegislash (Leftovers)
252HP/252 ATK
Brave - Stance Change
-Sacred Sword
-Swords Dance
-King's Shield
-Shadow Sneak



What other pokes could I sneak in for the mix? Walls, Sweepers, Tricksters? These are all I have actually bred, EVd, IVd, and moved out.


I've edited to add the trained EVs in. Sorry for missing those.
 
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Mynor1

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On klefkey put a focus sash on it, if it's bulky and can take a flamethrower put leftovers. On tyranitar you don't need an earth plate, maybe instead of the leftovers on klefkey you put it on him. You also need a spinner if you're running charizard.
 

Saucman

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Whats a good spinner? What movesets on Starmie or Forr?
 

Hazama

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Forretress is usually stealth rock rapid spin gyro ball and volt switch starmie is an offensive spinner so ice beam hydro pump/scald thunder/psyshock rapid spin
 

DarkSubZer0

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Id recommend Starmie to have a sweeper in ur team you most have kind of bulky pokemon or set up pokes, id say starmie with ice beam hydro pump psyshock and rapid spin with natural cure ability modest nature 252 spA 252 speed and 6 def maybe a life orb so u can sweep easier or leftovers for more sustain
 

doncoolio

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It would help to know what EV spread you currently have on these. It's worth going out and getting the hidden ability for Greninja also, as Protean makes decisions quite interesting. Greninja ought to run Ice Beam as well, as Ice is far more relevant offensively than Dark is. Though I understand you are looking for the STAB from Dark Pulse, that's where having Protean becomes useful. For the most part it seems your team doesn't have much bulk either, so when looking for that spinner going with Forretress like previously mentioned is good, or Tentacruel if you want a special wall. Donphan can also spin well.
 

Saucman

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Is Starmie a particularly strong sweeper? Or just good because also a rapid spin?
 

Saucman

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I've edited the post to reflect EVs. I guess I actually went with a pretty offensive spread on most of these.

With tyranitar could I possibly modify this team into sandstorm? Maybe excadrill for rapid spin then?
 

Wonka

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If you're going to have a diverse set on Greninja like that, you might want Protean
 

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