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[sebesmos]

Recommendations for a Protean Greninja moveset?

 

[Jiggly]

EVs: 252 sp. Atk 252 speed, rest in hp.
Surf/hydro pump
Dark pulse
Ice beam
Extra sensory/taunt/toxic spikes

 

[Snewgon]

EVs: 252 sp. Atk 252 speed, rest in hp.
Surf/hydro pump
Dark pulse
Ice beam
Extra sensory/taunt/toxic spikes

I'd recommend slashing in U-Turn on the last slot - it's very useful on gren if you predict a switch.

 

[Jiggly]

I'd recommend slashing in U-Turn on the last slot - it's very useful on gren if you predict a switch.

True, I myself do run it, but it is a viable option!

 

[areoplazma]

Recommendations for a Protean Greninja moveset?

Depends if it's a physical or special set

 

[Shooting_Quasar_Ditto]

Can u give me a nature too ?

 

[McCloud]

I'm building a trick room team and so far the only Pokemon I have isDusknoir(Duskull right now). Duskull has 4 perfect IVs which are HP, Attack, Defense and Sp. Defense so I'm guessing his moves should be physical but I'm not sure which ones. I was thinking maybe the elemental punches and also should I use him as my trick room setter? Also I'm not sure which EVs I should train. I was thinking maybe 252 HP and 252 Defense? Also I'm considering adding a Hypno and a Porygon 2 holding an eviolite. Would those two be good choices?

 

[Swepps]

I would go for something more like:

Talonflame @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Roost
- Bulk Up / U-turn

Or another alternative:

Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- U-Turn
- Steel Wing

(Yay first post!)

 

[Hazama]

I'm building a trick room team and so far the only Pokemon I have isDusknoir(Duskull right now). Duskull has 4 perfect IVs which are HP, Attack, Defense and Sp. Defense so I'm guessing his moves should be physical but I'm not sure which ones. I was thinking maybe the elemental punches and also should I use him as my trick room setter? Also I'm not sure which EVs I should train. I was thinking maybe 252 HP and 252 Defense? Also I'm considering adding a Hypno and a Porygon 2 holding an eviolite. Would those two be good choices?

Go for night shade on dusknoir. Always does a set 50 damage in WiFi battles. Maybe run pain split will-o-wisp night shade and trick room. Porygon 2 is an excellent setter of trick room because most of the others are weak to ghost/dark. Hypno is a personal favorite of mine. Pair him up with a fighting type like hariyama or scrafty. Both of those have fake out which helps hypno throw up that first trick room. Scrafty gets intimidate which helps in a lot of situations but hariyama will hit a lot harder with guts close combat. I would go for def and HP evs on dusknoir. Hypno is a special wall and porygon 2 is bulky in general.

 

[sebesmos]

Suggestions for Pokemon to cover flying/fighting/psychic/fairy move types in party? If you could narrow it down to two Pokemon that'd be great. Hawlucha/Gardevoir are the ones I'm already using. Just wondering what other options I have.

 

[Jiggly]

I would recommend absol with sucker punch, superpower, psycho cut, and stone edge. For fairies? I would use magnezone. It also helps get rid of flying.

 

[Jiggly]

Go for night shade on dusknoir. Always does a set 50 damage in WiFi battles. Maybe run pain split will-o-wisp night shade and trick room. Porygon 2 is an excellent setter of trick room because most of the others are weak to ghost/dark. Hypno is a personal favorite of mine. Pair him up with a fighting type like hariyama or scrafty. Both of those have fake out which helps hypno throw up that first trick room. Scrafty gets intimidate which helps in a lot of situations but hariyama will hit a lot harder with guts close combat. I would go for def and HP evs on dusknoir. Hypno is a special wall and porygon 2 is bulky in general.

if your running that set use eviolite duclops

 

[Hazama]

Forgot to mention that haha. Its very bulky

 

[McCloud]

Go for night shade on dusknoir. Always does a set 50 damage in WiFi battles. Maybe run pain split will-o-wisp night shade and trick room. Porygon 2 is an excellent setter of trick room because most of the others are weak to ghost/dark. Hypno is a personal favorite of mine. Pair him up with a fighting type like hariyama or scrafty. Both of those have fake out which helps hypno throw up that first trick room. Scrafty gets intimidate which helps in a lot of situations but hariyama will hit a lot harder with guts close combat. I would go for def and HP evs on dusknoir. Hypno is a special wall and porygon 2 is bulky in general.

Alright thanks. By the way is Sassy a good nature for Dusknoir? And I have a Drowzee with a relaxed nature and a Porygon 2 with a bold nature. Are those good natures for them? And what moves would you recommend for those two?

 

[Hazama]

Those are both good nature although you would want a relaxed nature on porygon 2 because of the - speed. I have an entire guide on trickroom if your interested sometime. For porygon 2 I like ice beam tri attack recover and trick room. Eviolite for item ofcourse. If your running a porygon 2 with eviolite you will need to run dusknoir because of the item clause. The good part about dusknoir over duclops is that you have the choice of having recovery/mental herb. Mental herb is one of my recommended items on a trick room lead ( in your case possibly hypno) as it stops taunt from ruining your day. Leftovers would be a great item on dusknoir as it has no reliable recovery in it's move set. Sassy would be good on a special defensive dusknoir. 252hp 252 spdef 6 def for dusknoirs ev spread. 252 hp 252 def 6 spatk for porygon2's ev spread and 252 Hp, 196 def,60 spatk for hypno.

http://perfectpokemon.com/threads/doubles-guide-to-trick-room.286/ Link to my guide.

 

[McCloud]

Those are both good nature although you would want a relaxed nature on porygon 2 because of the - speed. I have an entire guide on trickroom if your interested sometime. For porygon 2 I like ice beam tri attack recover and trick room. Eviolite for item ofcourse. If your running a porygon 2 with eviolite you will need to run dusknoir because of the item clause. The good part about dusknoir over duclops is that you have the choice of having recovery/mental herb. Mental herb is one of my recommended items on a trick room lead ( in your case possibly hypno) as it stops taunt from ruining your day. Leftovers would be a great item on dusknoir as it has no reliable recovery in it's move set. Sassy would be good on a special defensive dusknoir. 252hp 252 spdef 6 def for dusknoirs ev spread. 252 hp 252 def 6 spatk for porygon2's ev spread and 252 Hp, 196 def,60 spatk for hypno.

http://perfectpokemon.com/threads/doubles-guide-to-trick-room.286/ Link to my guide.

Alright, I looked at your guide and decided on adding Hariyama and Aggron. Would these two be good additions? Also, I'm having trouble deciding the last pokemon to add to the team.

 

[Hazama]

Hmm you need a slow special attacker. This is simply preference. Camerupt and octillery both have the exact same niche. Protect first turn while trick room is setting up. Then continuously use eruption/water spout. Eelektross has amazing coverage+ no weaknesses which is also nice. Im liking your choices, Hariyama+hypno is a great lead. Aggron is also a nice choice. Chandelure and exeggutor can both set up trick room and sweep. Exeggutor is suprisingly bulky as shown in a lot of my replays from the guide. It also hits really hard, Giga drain+lum/sitrus berry+ harvest= amazing sustain in battle. Chandelure is also bulky with access to heat wave.

 

[McCloud]

I'm thinking maybe Eelektross as a Special attacker, especially because it would pair up well with Aggron because Eelektross wouldn't be affected by Earthquake. I think Chandelure would be a good option too but then half my team would be weak to dark and ghost type moves and same with Exaggcuter.

 

[Hazama]

Yeah making a trickroom team without too many dark and ghost weakness is tough. Eelektross is always nice, Very good coverage.

 

[McCloud]

Alright, I guess this means it's time to start building the actual team, so far Dusknoir and Porygon 2 are the only ones who are ready and I'm currently working on Hypno's EV's and I'm also trying to hatch a Brave Aron and I already have a brave Makuhita sitting in my PC waiting for his turn on EV training and then I'll have to find an Electross to use for breeding.