Active Bring Prices Up!

[MegaUmbreon]

You don't know what I do, so please do not say I make Pokemon using using that device, thanks.

Furthermore breeding is the most tedious and boring part of the game imo and in many people opinions. If you don't want to do it paying someone else a decent amount seems more than fair, not the minuscule amounts that everyone has gotten accustomed to.

My apologies. I simply assumed that since I used one (and I'm not a seller or anything, and I breed only when I make a mistake on a pokemon or need a different nature) that the big shops used one too.

Truthfully, I like breeding and EV training. I plop down on the couch, turn on a tv show or a movie and hoard train/egg hatch. But I can see how it'd be boring for others.

 

[Cheza]

For all those worried about prices increasing to something to high or unaffordable don't be. A price increase wouldn't be something extreme, just something to make things fair again. The current prices are 50-70pc for Pokegen'd Pokemon, and anywhere between 50-200pc for perfect Kalos bred Pokemon. An increase around 100-150pc for Pokegen'd Pokemon and 200-300pc for Kalos bred Pokemon would be a reasonable increase that's not to much for buyers to pay and gives sellers a fair amount for their work. Plus buying in bulk would give a lot of free Pokemon or discounts on the final price of orders. These prices would still be lower then other sites like Ebay where a Pokemon can be $5 a pop.

 

[Gold 2.0]

I'm behind this 100%.



Even though I can't take you seriously in that font 0_0

 

[Cheza]

I'm behind this 100%.



Even though I can't take you seriously in that font 0_0

You love my font Gold... YOU LOOOVE IIIIT

 

[pplzdude]

In all seriousness, it would be fantastic if we could get organized and try to actually get this idea in business.

One thing that I got a pm about my prices were "they were too expensive," just because they had gotten used to the super cheap prices.

Average price was too expensive to this person because they had gotten something from someone at a price that was about 1/3 of average price.

This is a problem, seeing as if people get used to prices that are 1/3 of average cost the site economy will just decline into the state is used to be when people used to sell everything at 20PC.

This is why it would be wonderful if we could get the collective efforts of everyone for this rather than just a small group of us who would like to see the site flourish.

 

[Vyft]

Can we not ask the owners to raise the minimum transaction? xD Just seems like the most logical way for me

 

[Unproxied]

It would have to be an agreement between all of the PokeGen users and Kalos Born sellers.

If not, we won't get any sales and the cheaper shops will prevail. It's harder to do than it sounds.

You know some of them won't comply. xD

 

[Vyft]

Do a vote xD majority wins!?

 

[Miles8088]

While I am more than happy for the prices to go up, personally, I feel that if the sellers are going to dismiss the people who object the idea, it's going to be hard for it to gain momentum. I know breeding takes a long time, I do feel what the pokes are sold for right now is too low. I have no issue with genned/pokesav being about 100-150, KB being 200-250, but sellers need to be realistic, you have been seeing these services for cheap, if you do put up prices and you go too high, buyers will just leave this site and go elsewhere to be. Maybe if you want to do this, get all sellers to agree to set prices, no under cutting and offer exact timelines in which the pokes will be complete. This is my opinion anyways

I agree with these prices honestly. They need to go up but 500 is a bit much

 

[Miles8088]

This will always be an issue... even if we have the prices we now have, there will always be some cheaper ones, but those undercutters will probably use PM and not a Thread, and usually would be less trusted/positive feedback, cause if they did, they dint have to cut. people will still buy from you if you deliver well and have nice service and the feedback to back it up :/

I understand what you guys are saying but this is the mindset that gets nothing done. If we said oh well someone will always undercut, then more and more people will undercut with no fear of consequences . If we do something then only a handful will do it, it won't be out in the open for new people to see and it will be harder to do

 

[Cheza]

I've gathered the names of shop owners on the first page of Buying/Selling Perfect Pokemon.

@EliteFourCronos, @endykholi, @Chaos, @Eclipzer, @selimpride, @BlackManMcSwaggin, @pplzdude, @Lonewolf676, @LoopInEXUS, @Unproxied, @Tunuko, @rwilliams20, @Rice, @Miles8089, @Aiden, @Vyft.

Would you all be interested in a new average base selling price for your services? Many people here (some of you I've mentioned) would be perfectly fine rising prices in their shop just a little higher to make things more fair.

We are looking at an increase of around 100-150pc for Pokgen'd Pokemon, and 200-300pc for a Kalos born Pokemon.

This way if you don't own a Powersave you can still make a decent amount for the time you have spent breeding, and Pokegenners can make a decent amount for time it takes to make files and put everything onto two different games now that the old Nindento WiFi has been cut off.

This price increase isn't to high, but is just enough to bring the economy back up to a better state.

Feel free to ping anyone else I have not mentioned above that you feel should be notified about the increase.

Thank you everyone for your time and please consider.

 

[Yamatori]

i am with you as well but we need something official otherwise there will always be a cheater take all the money! i am selling for 20pc per pokemon (any pokemon) but it would be great if i could sell at 200 or 300 cause its illegal to sell less than this

 

[Dom]

i am with you as well but we need something official otherwise there will always be a cheater take all the money! i am selling for 20pc per pokemon (any pokemon) but it would be great if i could sell at 200 or 300 cause its illegal to sell less than this

That doesn't even make sense, people like you selling 20pc per pokemon are the reason for this, you're contradicting yourself

I don't think the prices are great but they aren't terrible and as of now we have a huge ratio of sellers to buyers, if the price increases more people will want to sell and less people will be eager to spend money, Just something to think about. Prices can be raised but, the only people posting here for the most part or atleast the people Cheza tagged are shopkeepers who would be profiting

(Go ahead everyone get mad at me for looking at the opposing view even though i'm acknowledging both sides of the argument)

 

[Yamatori]

i am selling the cheapest possible and i will always do that! if the limit is 20 then i will sell for 20 if the limit is 500 i will sell with 500 ! in that case if lets say the minimum transaction is 200 pc i cant see how it will not benefit me! i agree with you for the balance between buyer and seller mabey something like 40-50pc could work!

 

[Dom]

i am selling the cheapest possible and i will always do that! if the limit is 20 then i will sell for 20 if the limit is 500 i will sell with 500 ! in that case if lets say the minimum transaction is 200 pc i cant see how it will not benefit me! i agree with you for the balance between buyer and seller mabey something like 40-50pc could work!

The whole point of this thread is to raise prices and it's gathering people to do it voluntarily to sway other sellers to do the same and get a larger profit for everyone, if you understand what's going on then you would see that you selling for the bare minimum is draining the profits out of your work and undercutting other sellers. This is counterproductive to the thread, you said it would be great if you could sell for 200 or 300 pc and you CAN you just choose not to.

 

[Cheza]

That doesn't even make sense, people like you selling 20pc per pokemon are the reason for this, you're contradicting yourself

I don't think the prices are great but they aren't terrible and as of now we have a huge ratio of sellers to buyers, if the price increases more people will want to sell and less people will be eager to spend money, Just something to think about. Prices can be raised but, the only people posting here for the most part or atleast the people Cheza tagged are shopkeepers who would be profiting

(Go ahead everyone get mad at me for looking at the opposing view even though i'm acknowledging both sides of the argument)

We've had a couple of buyers agree that prices are low and a price increase wouldn't be bad, they just don't want to see it go up to something like 500 pc per Pokemon like eBay. Which is understandable.

Someone above had mentioned, quote "It would have to be an agreement between all of the PokeGen users and Kalos Born sellers." and that's why I posted looking for opinions from the most active sellers.

We would probably still need another thread after this with a vote to see what happens with this.

 

[Dom]

We've had a couple of buyers agree that prices are low and a price increase wouldn't be bad, they just don't want to see it go up to something like 500 pc per Pokemon like eBay. Which is understandable.

Someone above had mentioned, quote "It would have to be an agreement between all of the PokeGen users and Kalos Born sellers." and that's why I posted looking for opinions from the most active sellers.

We would probably still need another thread after this with a vote to see what happens with this.

A lot of buyers don't browse the forums or talk in the shoutbox they only go to shops when they need something, it's nice that you're hearing from some buyers but there are plenty more that won't say anything until the prices are raised (if that actually happened)

Just something to think about.

In the mean time I think a good place to start would be changing the rule from a minimum of 20PC per transaction to a minimum of 20PC per item/pokemon purchased just so some people (they know who they are) don't sell pokemon in bundles for 1pc each

 

[Yamatori]

why someone will ever buy the exact same product from the same shop just double price? and in any case you mabey right! but when you are new to the forum you can only sell if you sell the cheapest! i will try to raise my prices and give it a try! ebay is selling for 2 dollars so i guess i can try!some kind of association would be great like 1 united shop or something! sweaping those cheap sellers is not that easy as you say anyway

 

[Dom]

why someone will ever buy the exact same product from the same shop just double price? and in any case you mabey right! but when you are new to the forum you can only sell if you sell the cheapest! i will try to raise my prices and give it a try! ebay is selling for 2 dollars so i guess i can try!some kind of association would be great like 1 united shop or something! sweaping those cheap sellers is not that easy as you say anyway

Selling on ebay is also illegal just saying, One untied shop wouldn't work but i'm not going into details on that, Notice all the well to do shops are selling at decent prices, the popular ones have been around and built a customer base and that is a lot more effective than rock bottom prices and more profitable for the seller

Be friendly and patient and your shop can grow without you draining your profits, wasting your time, and killing the economy

 

[Cheza]

A lot of buyers don't browse the forums or talk in the shoutbox they only go to shops when they need something, it's nice that you're hearing from some buyers but there are plenty more that won't say anything until the prices are raised (if that actually happened)

Just something to think about.

In the mean time I think a good place to start would be changing the rule from a minimum of 20PC per transaction to a minimum of 20PC per item/pokemon purchased just so some people (they know who they are) don't sell pokemon in bundles for 1pc each

I can agree to changing the rule, It would be a good first step forward